Okay, this timeline wrangling is giving me a headache. Officially requesting your help. (Signal boosting definitely counts as helping!)
WHEN WAS THE FALL? So far, I’ve got conflicting sources (June 2011 or 2012?)
WHEN DID SHERLOCK RETURN? It was stated as a two-year absence.
WHEN WAS JOHN AND MARY’s WEDDING? Invitation in TSOT says Saturday, May 18, which would be true in 2013, but not 2014 because May 18 was a Sunday. So if it was indeed a 2-year absence, that means Sherlock jumped off Bart’s in June 2011. But then there’s this bit of info which states Sherlock returned in November 2013, and in TEH, Lord Moran uses a code indicating it’s 2013.
WHEN WAS ROSIE BORN? This post calculated Mary was around 34 or 35 weeks pregnant at Christmas, which makes her due date around last week of January/first week of February. But would it be 2014 or 2015?
Tagging @destinationtoast and @marsdaydream because I know they had to do all this math for their fics :).
Also, anyone have guesses on how old Rosie is at different points in s4? I’ve got estimates based on my own experiences and some minor googling.
In TST, when Rosie throws rattle at Sherlock, she is sitting up in something that looks like a Bumbo and able to hold her head up just fine on her own, so that’s at least 3 months old, imo.
At the end of TLD, John deduces it’s Sherlock’s birthday. If we go with SH’s bday being January 6, then Rosie’s almost a year old??? And what the hell year is it???
But a lot of time passes from then until the end of TFP, and I’m not sure how old Rosie is supposed to be in the final montage there. Haven’t hashed out the TFP timeline yet, but I’m workin’ on it. 🙂
Signal boosts appreciated! I need all the help I can get with this tangled thing.
The timeline is inconsistent af. I’ll try to dig up my notes, but also signal boosting!
Fall was 2011. When Magnussen views his mental file about Sherlock, it says ‘declared deceased 2011-2013. It was John’s blog that initially said that the show had entered 2012 during ASiP. But that’s not on screen. What Cam views is.
Sherlock, by most feasible calculation returned on Nov 2, 2013. So John’s wedding was in 2014. There’s a confusion of dates as, again, blog indicates August wedding while on screen date is May. As usual, we could discard the blog date, but IIRC, there’s a mention of changed date in DVD commentary? Just that I recall one of the Moftiss talking about this.
This makes tarmac scene 2015 (a week from Christmas 2014). As for when Rosie was born, haven’t speculated that yet.
Which in turn makes the end of TLD – when John wishes Sherlock on his birthday – to be 2016. That is, assuming Sherlock’s birthday is in Jan. There’s no on screen evidence of that. It’s also consistent with TFP timeline when we see Moriarty flashback as ‘Five years earlier’. That would be the time Mycroft was watching Moriarty from the end of ASiP to end of THoB. (Possibly also when he took him yo Sherrinford.)
I’m sorry, I can’t link posts as I’m on mobile. But please do go through my #timeline, #age debate tags as I’ve spent a lot of time on timeline before S4.
What a mess! A trip down @cosmoglaut’s #timeline is terrifying.
If TFP is January 2016, that makes the “Christmas present” visit of Moriarty to Sherrinford in Dec 2010 or Jan 2011, around the time of Sherlock got a Christmas present from Irene and we had the Battersea sceen from ASiB. This timeline would put the Great Game in April 2010, and John and Sherlock’s first meeting in ASIP in January 2010.
From what I’ve seen, this is what I guess. Please ammend
- 2010-01: ASiP
- 2010-02 or 03: TBB (I’d beat late February, given how cold it is)
- 2010-04: TGG
- 2010-04 to 2011-01: ASiB
- 2011-03ish to 2011-: THoB
- 2011-05is to 2011-ish: TRF
- 2013-10ish to 2013-11: TEH
- 2014-03ish to 2014-08ish: TSoT (depending on what you read)
- 2014-09ish to 2015-01: HLV
- 2015-01: TAB (not touching the drug-addled dream dates)
- 2015-01 to 2015-09ish: TST (given Rosie’s behaviour, I don’t know)
- 2015-12ish to 2016-01: TLD
- 2016-01ish: TFP
So, yeah, Battersea scene and BondAir would be at the same time as the Moriarty/Eurus meet up. Poor Mycroft.
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