john had his hand on a man’s bare genitals, like l i t e r a l l y
irene adler sexually dominated kate middleton
sherlock watched youtube videos on how to fold napkins
john loves attention, he wants to fucking roll around in it while jacking off
sherlock paraded around butt ass naked in front of a whole buncha guys
john & sherlock don’t know how to have friends other than each other
literally no one knows who the fuck mary is and mycroft is scared
john called sherlock “mate” and felt his bowels rearrange??
sherlock defeated death for only john
john has never gotten mad on behalf of mary ever
but he punched a police chief in the face for calling sherlock a weirdo
& he was gonna punch mr. carmichael for steppin to sherlock 1 time
sherlock opened a random door to check out hot military guys
john and sherlock threw a party together
THERE HAVE ALREADY BEEN 12 OUT GAY PEOPLE ON THE SHOW, 13 IF YOU INCLUDE SHERLOCK’S UNCLE RUDY (who is a crossdresser which tbf doesn’t = gay, but we’re working with gay coding here so)
13 GAYS ON THE SHOW ALREADY WITH 1 OF THEM BEING SHERLOCK’S UNCLE, LIKE WHAT HARM IS 2 MORE GAYS??
LIKE BUDDY, HATE TO BREAK IT TO YA BUT THIS SHOW ALREADY GAY AS FUCK!!
I’m just going to make this one post about the whole thing and then I’m done, cause there’s literally no point in stressing about it or being upset and I’ll tell you why.
First, Martin Freeman has supported the narrative of John and Sherlock being romantic partners countless times in the far past AND even recent past. This interview is such a blatant contradiction of him calling Sherlock the “gayest story in the history of television,” calling the Oklahoma parody true and accurate, saying he read the canon as Holmes and Watson being in love, and not being bothered in the slightest about Johnlock fan art. So don’t take it too seriously.
You have to look at what he’s saying in context. We don’t know what the question was. It seems like he was upset about Freebatch or a Marvel question and ended up extending his answer to johnlock. Yeah, it was shitty, but of course he’d be angry about fans speculating about his personal life, or being asked about Ben in an interview that wasn’t supposed to be about him.
Second, it’s not like Johnlock is the only ship that’s been “shot down” by a cast/crew quote before. Literally every ship that’s somewhat popular has quotes that are both in support of it and against it. We just happen to be the biggest ship, so it makes sense that we’d have the most of these quotes, both good and bad. If Sherl0llians can ignore Moffat’s quote about the ily scene, and Ben and Loo’s past quotes about how Molly will never be with Sherlock in favor of Ben randomly saying Sherlock might love her, then we have every right to do the same with this. If War/stans can ignore Amanda calling Mary a psychopath in favor of Martin saying they’re happily together, we can ignore this.This is why you can never take cast/crew quotes to heart. If you did, you’ve have to take everything they say seriously, and there are too many wild contradictions for that to even be possible.
Third, yes it’s true that of all the ships, the cast/crew comment the most about Johnlock, both positively and negatively. But when you think about it, it makes sense. John and Sherlock are the leads, and the romantic tension between them is so blatantly obvious that the actors and writers are asked about it all the freaking time. There’s a reason journalists hardly ever (if ever) ask about War/stan, Adblock, or Sherl0llly. If they did, they’d have their fair share of quotes they can celebrate and ignore, but no one asks.
Lastly, it really doesn’t fucking matter what they say, or what their intentions are. Fictional content should be able to stand on it’s own. You shouldn’t be asked to filter what you’re seeing through interview quotes from the writers and actors. That’s literally not how any fiction has ever worked. Quotes don’t change the material of the show.
If they supposedly didn’t act as lovers, so what??? We saw it, and so did thousands of others. Maybe it was unintentional, maybe not. It doesn’t matter because it’s there. It’s not like we’re a bunch of rabid fangirls demanding that everything needs to be gay out of nowhere. All the quotes in the world can’t change the fact that we have hoards and hoards of support for reading their relationship romantically- evidence that Gahtiss admitted he put there for shits and giggles. We were asked the question of Sherlock’s sexuality and ability to love numerous times in the show, we answered it, and now we’re the bad guys. Nope, that’s not how it works.
reblogging cause this is relevant again, I guess
“You shouldn’t be asked to filter what you’re seeing through interview quotes from the writers and actors. That’s literally not how any fiction has ever worked. Quotes don’t change the material of the show.”
As for if we are ‘wrong’. I wonder why so many fans would think Sherlock and John are gay… 🤔
OH yeah.
🙄 😒😒😒
*PS: Yes, I know the person at BBC3 was an unchecked employee just pushing stuff to get more viewers, but the point is that the content of the posts were -still pointing out and highlighting themes that Actually Exist in the Show-.
Canon Holmes and Irene Adler had literally three interactions. In two of them, he was in disguise. In one of them she was in disguise. They didn’t even have a conversation. Canonically happily married to a man. Literally moved Holmes out of her way using just her pinky finger.
Fuckbois throughout the ages : HE LOVES IRENE ADLER. HE TOTALLY WANTED TO SLEEP WITH HER. THAT’S WHY HE ADMIRES HER. #TRUELOVE #SOULMATE #STAR-CROSSED LOVERS
Sherlock Holmes in ACD canon : I wanna fly out of the window and over London holding Watson’s hand. My Boswell. My conductor of light. IF YOU TOUCH WATSON I WILL KILL YOU AND YOUR ANCESTORS.
People: They are friends. #NOHOMO #PLATONIC #JUST BROS
Heteronormativity is a powerful drug.
Holmes’ canon reaction to Irene Adler getting married:
Putting his hands into his pockets, he stretched out his legs in front of the fire and laughed heartily for some minutes.
“Well, really!” he cried, and then he choked and laughed again until he was obliged to lie back, limp and helpless, in the chair.
“What is it?”
“It’s quite too funny.”
Holmes’ canon reaction to Watson getting married:
“I get
a wife out of it, Jones gets the credit, pray what
remains for you?”
“For me,” said Sherlock Holmes, “there still
remains the cocaine-bottle.” And he stretched his
long white hand up for it.
Irene getting married made Holmes laugh for literal minutes until he choked, and then laugh again until he could laugh no more.
Watson getting married made Holmes reach for his drugs.
And there it is 🙌
It’s also an important distinction to me, and one that I’ve never been happy about in terms of Moftiss’ use of this, that in Victorian England, the use of opiates was considered purely recreational, and Holmes is referred to as a light, casual, recreational user – not a desperate, out-of-control addict. The fact that they “updated” it to be more on par with heroin use than, say, recreational marijuana, makes it far more ominous in the BBC-verse than it ever was in ACD-verse. And yet they made that choice for him.
Irene Adler, in their canon, worked for Moriarty – Sherlock’s arch-enemy, the person who tried repeatedly to kill John. That’s not a playful, light-hearted rivalry or something – that’s serious. Irene extorted men for information, which she then used to sell out her country and betray anyone it took as long as it meant covering her own ass. I agree that she was a fun character, but as a partner for Sherlock? Nope nope nope. And John recommending it, when he was so jealous of her in ASIB that veins were practically popping in his forehead? John, who nearly died serving the country that Irene so casually sold out – to the very sort of terrorist that he and Sherlock spend all of their time working to bring to justice? Sorry, no. That just doesn’t work, no matter how desperate one is to heterowash everything in this show.
For those who allege that Sherlock doesn’t care about his clients, look at that third gif. There’s real sadness and compassion there. During this scene, Henry is actively suicidal and keeps putting a gun in his mouth, but it’s Sherlock – not John, the soldier and doctor – who talks Henry down.
“Someone needed to keep you quiet; needed to keep you as a child to reassert the dream that you’d both clung on to, because you had started to remember…You couldn’t cope. You were just a child, so you rationalized it into something very different. But then you started to remember, so you had to be stopped; driven out of your mind so that no one would believe a word that you said.”
Does Sherlock only care about the mysteries? At this point in the episode, he already had the solution. He knew the workings behind H.O.U.N.D. and the poisonous gas. He could have left. But he wanted to make Henry understand, to alleviate some of the grief he’d carried since his father’s death. Sherlock even forces Henry to look at the dead dog to drive the point home. “You couldn’t cope. You were just a child.“
It’s a remarkable display of empathy on Sherlock’s part.
I had to go back and find and reblog this meta from four years ago because it’s taken on new poignancy in light of The Final Problem. Now we know that Sherlock, too, had conjured a hound of his own.
“Now we know that Sherlock, too, had conjured a hound of his own.”
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