i-love-the-bee-keeper:

samwellwinchesterthebrave:

hotshoeagain:

i-love-the-bee-keeper:

Well we will always have Martin’s facial expressions and sly turn of phrase to tell us what he thinks of S4 and the future of Sherlock. He gave us that disappointed facial expression in the interview when he discussed the ending, throwing in the ‘as friends’ to emphasise that there was another obvious option. He clearly was not a happy camper. Now we get this recent video where he was asked about further episodes of Sherlock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB8P3OOa9o4

Look at 1.38. He winces. He also rocks back. Bad memories and an experience that holds negative emotion. He also goes on to closing his eyes and shaking his head ‘no’ even though he’s attempting to be upbeat about the prospect. 

[Thank you @quantum-sparrow for alerting me to this]

So that’s a “NO” from Martin and a sure sign that he thinks s4 was shite and he has no plans to return.

On the other side of the duo, Benedict gave us that ‘John Watson’ answer to the question on who does Sherlock love. He rambled on a bit but his first response was his real response. He didn’t like the last minute Molly scene and that love declaration as he never saw his character have romantic feelings for Molly. So when at the Oxford talk this week the interviewer Alan said he thought s4 was shite [still waiting for video or transcript but informed that he did say this] Ben responded with a ‘well I thought episode 2 was OK’. Oh dear, only OK? Well it did have Toby Jones, who Ben views as family [Tim dated Toby’s Mum for years before he met Wanda] and of course it contained the Shakespeare monologue, and this:

So of course Ben would remember ep 2. But by only mentioning ep 2 he silently agreed with Alan that ep 1 and 3 were shite. 

As time goes on the evidence mounts. Two unhappy leads. 

Exactly. 

Good that someone smarter than me also recognizes it’s significant that Ben would only mention Ep 2, silently consigning Eps 1 and 3 to the bin. Thanks @i-love-the-bee-keeper for the analysis. 

Unfortunately this evidence works against my hypothesis that the showrunners could have enticed the actors into those shit roles in S4 by letting them (at least part way) into the secret of an explanatory S5 to make it all better. 

Evidence is that the actors were as blindsided by the awfulness as we were.  

Evidence is that the actors hate the memory of what they were made to do. 

Now that they are both independently successful, in demand in Hollywood and elsewhere, and plenty well-off financially, there is no reason in the world why they would go back to work for the writers who betrayed them. 

Martin wanted to play bi John soooo badly. He was pumped for it and enticed by playing John in a new way. I don’t remember the interview but he was /giddy/ talking about it.

And every interview I’ve seen of his about/since season 4 has the complete opposite feeling. You can see he’s only going through the motions, this is his job and that’s it. The spark is gone and it’s so disheartening.

Seriously, Moffat and Gatiss fucked up royally on season 4 to make most fans and their freaking leads dislike it so much

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