there is no heterosexual explanation for this and that last sentence has 0 redeeming power
Holmes is so beautiful and his music is a sweet lullaby and I’m so entranced by him OH LOOK MY FUTURE WIFE NO HOMO
Oh my lord. It’s The Fucky Problem.
Honestly, I’m starting to think this sort of thing in ACD is exactly why S3-S4 have gone down the way they have. Maybe there is no Mary in Sherlock… because there was no Mary in ACD.
Can anyone direct me to resources that might be helpful for writing Victorian Johnlock. I find I know much more about women during that time period than men. I know @weeesi has a bunch of stuff about this that I am going to search through and I know it comes across my dash. I have just always been more interested in queer women than men.
But, hey, maybe we’ll just have to do victorian femlock then. Where is my victorian femlock?
First I will try it with the men. I’ll be searching around and will make a masterpost with anything I find if it would be helpful. Tagging a few folks who I know write Victorian fics. @a-candle-for-sherlock (who will be joining me on this journey) & @mistyzeo & WHO ELSE? I know there are others.
Oh GOSH, where did I get the info in my brain about the Victorian era? Shit, okay. A lot of osmosis, but here are my bookmarks that I reference sometimes:
https://sherlock-holm.es/stories/html/cano.html I start here with the Holmes stories, especially if you want to know specific lines or what people were wearing. Watson is a clothes horse and loves talking about fashion.
http://ship-manifesto.livejournal.com/51192.html This is a ship manifesto from LJ but it has some overviews of the Holmes/Watson friendship timeline, as well as tender things they say to one another.
http://www.nekosmuse.com/withlovesh/?cat=3 Neko’s Muse does a great series called “Decoding the Subtext” which goes in depth (and a little tongue-in-cheek) into romantic coding in the canon. It can be heavy-handed at times, but is a delight nevertheless.
TIMELINES
http://www.foodtimeline.org/ What food is available when? Can H & W be eating [insert particular thing] or has it not been invented yet (looking at you, ORANGE JUICE, 1910)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF3N6D9hQwk Footage of a lady undressing, 1897. Wow! Underwear! Bums! I think this is supposed to be racy? Why does the maid pour sand on her and then look at the camera? I love it.
Also (this is going to sound totally snooty but) I have a MA in Sherlock Holmes and Victorian feminism now, so a lot of my knowledge comes from actually studying contemporary culture from books, newspapers, pamphlets, etc from the era. I can point you to the Bibliography section of my thesis for a list of those which admittedly are specific to the topic of women and transportation: http://www.mistyzeo.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Thesis-to-Share.pdf (last 2 pages).
I also draw on the knowledge of friends and fellow writers when it comes to really specific details, so if there’s anything in particular you want to know, get in touch and I’ll see if the Holmes fandom braintrust can help.
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Holy shit, this is an amazing list.
Tbh Google and actual Victorian novels are my primary source material, along with Doyle canon, but the inevitable and magnificent Strangers by Graham Robb, The Victorian City by Judith Flanders, What Jane Austen Ate And Charles Dickens Knew by Daniel Pool, Unmentionable by Therese Oneill (for femlock), and How To Be A Victorian by Ruth Goodman are all fantastic resources for details of queer life and daily experience.
I’ve never been one for reincarnation, but if I’ve had a past life, I know for sure I was one of those original Sherlock Holmes fans that physically assaulted Doyle after he purposely tanked The Final Problem of 1893.
self care at this point in time is listening to oh what a night on repeat for eternity and drinking 57 gatorades like shots so that your electrolytes will become powerful enough that you can get in a knife fight with arthur conan doyles ghost on the astral plane
Anytime anyone tells you you’re, “too obsessed” with fictional characters/TV shows/movies and cites your youth as a reason, remind them that when Sir Arthur Conan Doyle killed Sherlock, people dressed in mourning clothes. They literally dressed as you would dress at the time if someone close to you died.
The Sherlock Fandom really hasn’t changed much in 120 years tbh
you don’t need to study literature (although this is what I do) to see that these two men are in L O V E
BONUS: this is what Sir Arthur Conan Doyle says himself
just a few of many, feel free to add more
@nerdycauseimme actually, according to his official biography, ‘Conan Doyle’s feelings about homosexuality were more liberal than the norm, which may have been the reason why, he later was not elevated to sit in the House of Lords’! Homosexuality was a criminal offence in England until 1967, however, so, like most people wishing to avoid the law, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle had to be covert in his support and portrayal of it.
@mionewatts actually, queer readings of the Sherlock Holmes canon have been around for decades!
They go back, on paper, as far as 1941, when Rex Stout gave a talk to the Sherlock Holmes society The Baker Street Irregulars entitled “Was Watson a woman?” Although mostly tongue in cheek (and unfortunately quite sexist), this set a precedent in the Holmesian community for reading Holmes and Watson as romantically involved.
The Adventure of the Three Students begins ‘It was in the year ‘95 that a combination of events, into which I need not enter, caused Mr. Sherlock Holmes and myself to spend some weeks in one of our great university towns, and it was during this time that the small but instructive adventure which I am about to relate befell us.’ 1895 was the year in which Oscar Wilde (with whom, according to the aforementioned official biography, Conan Doyle ‘got along famously’) was tried and sentenced to two years of hard labour for ‘gross indecency’. While the Labouchere Amendment had devised this sentence in 1885, there hadn’t been an enormous amount of convictions up to this point, as the law generally preferred to just pretend that something they deemed as shameful as homosexuality didn’t exist and cover it up rather than expose it. However, Wilde’s case brought the issue to public attention and many men were tried and charged in 1895, making London one of the most dangerous places to be for men who were attracted to men at that time, and many of them left the city as a result.* Samuel Rosenberg also makes an excellent argument for Wilde as a source of inspiration to Conan Doyle in Naked is the Best Disguise. *See Neil Bartlett’s Who Was That Man?: A Present For Mr Oscar Wilde for more information.
There are two instances in the canon where one man kills another in defence of the woman he loves, and Holmes allows him to walk free in light of the circumstances. One is The Adventure of the Abbey Grange, in which the perpetrator asks, after making his confession, ‘Was I wrong? Well, then, what would either of you gentlemen have done, if you had been in my position?’ The other is The Adventure of the Devil’s Foot, in which the perpetrator says ‘Perhaps, if you loved a woman, you would have done as much yourself.’ This time, Holmes concedes, and says: ‘I have never loved, Watson, but if I did and if the woman I loved had met such an end, I might act even as our lawless lion-hunter has done. Who knows?’ Holmes never does fall in love with a woman, but in The Adventure of the Three Garridebs, Watson is shot, and Holmes leaps to his defence, about which Watson says ‘For the one and only time I caught a glimpse of a great heart as well as of a great brain. All my years of humble but single-minded service culminated in that moment of revelation.’ Assured that Watson is alright, Holmes turns to his assailant and says ‘By the Lord, it is as well for you. If you had killed Watson, you would not have got out of this room alive.’ As you can see, this very clearly parallels the romantically coded actions described in Abbey Grange and Devil’s Foot.
Of course, Conan Doyle couldn’t make Holmes and Watson’s relationship explicitly romantic – as I mentioned earlier, homosexuality was a criminal offence at the time, and The Picture of Dorian Gray was used as evidence against Wilde during his trial – but he dropped more than enough hints for many people to have been noticing and writing about them for over 75 years!