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Amanda Abbington and Sue Vertue about Sherlock S4. (x)

HAHAH! BLESS AMANDA!!! 🙂 Sue’s face though!

GIF 1: This one is the best series for me
GIF 2: I keep telling people if we can pull this off…
GIF 3: … it will be “television history”
GIF 4: I think it really will because it’s kind of groundbreaking
GIF 5: They’ve done something again… these guys 
GIF 6: and that… that’s never been done before
GIF 7: And it’s dead exciting.
GIF 8: Yeah, you know what it is! I’m not saying anymore…

(sorry I had a hard time reading these)

OMG SUE’S FACE IN GIF 6 AND 7 THOUGH.

Amanda’s been put in the basement LOL.

Amanda couldn’t shut up if her life depended on it. As for ground-breaking, with Cucumber and Queer as Folk, we have seen pretty much everything on TV, so methinks Johnlock may be real. As in, breaking the canon. Let’s hope so.

My guess is that she was talking about Season 4 as that season was supposedly going to be the end of the series, by ending all opened arcs  (as there wasnt or isnt any S5 planned, just Dracula in their hands now) So then Amanda should have shut up, as Sue´s face was pretty telling, because she knew that..

Season 4 would be the worst season

That they wouldn´t pull it off

That it´d be television history, for the worst reasons in the whole series… 

So it wouldn´t be groundbreaking… (And that´s why TFP wasn´t sent to the Emmy´s)…

And yeah, Sue and Mofftiss knew that there is one thing that they would do again, that is, queerbaiting us all again…So, been there done that before…

And Sue and Mofftiss could see we weren´t excited once the TFP preview finished, and not just because we didn´t see explicit JL, they dead us all before the end of the episode by all the bad writing…yeah we know what it is…NOW

Hindsight is 20/20.

Amanda has said the “jewish lady on plane” scene was written because she and her buddy, Gatiss, used to joke around bts doing accents. I personally think this friendship, following the split, caused Martin to be pushed to the outer, with consequent favouring of Amanda.

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yorkiepug:

Oh Nonny, I have had this thought more than once as well. They added a pointless scene just so AA and Gatiss could have a laugh. I DO think her friendship with him is part of the reason her role got boosted and they tried to “make her a star.” I think it backfired on them. They took away from what people actually watch the show for, ya know Sherlock and John and their relationship, and replaced it with the Adventures of Assassin Mary. Low and behold they had the worst season of the show EVER, which was pretty much universally disliked (yes I know there are folks that liked it, good for you).  Most people I talk to, friends, fans, casuals, can’t stand Mary and don’t understand why the show took such a stupid turn. I know I have zero desire to ever watch S4 ever again. I think most people have an understanding that if you title the show Sherlock and then promise that it’s about Sherlock and John and their relationship, your expectation is that it will actually BE about Sherlock and John and their relationship. Not BBC Mary. Shame on Mofftiss for the bait and switch.

Completely agree @yorkiepug you can’t force chemistry, you can’t force someone to be a star. It is sometimes in the little moments that a person mesmerizes you. For me it was Lara puller and loo Brealey even though they initially did not have big roles, especially Loo but they impressed me with their acting. They didn’t need extra scenes written for them. I was an Amanda supporter all along but this overshadowing aspect really bothered me. The set lock changed, the public interviews changed. Both Martin and Benedict became much more guarded. At the same time, Amanda willingly interacted with the fandom. Bringing issues to their attention which did not bode well. Fandom should not be dealt with for personal recognition. It is a force of its own. But trying to channel it to complain about things she did not approve of, starting with slash fan art to people clueing set lock photos, it was really counterproductive. It also brought Martin and Benedict on set chemistry to people’s attention unnecessarily. I did not like how they handled the whole thing after season 3 and I think it is achingly visible.Moffat and Gatiss, nepotism is alright but rewiring everything according to nepotistic priorities, NOT ALRIGHT!

Yeah, there was probably something going on there. All those interviews after Mary was introduced, hinting that AA was going to be a big part of “Sherlock” from then on… and most of us didn’t like the sound of that. There is no way anyone but Gatiss, Abbington, and possibly Moffat wanted Mary to be such a big deal in the show. They got stuck on some weird idea about how important she had to be and forgot to think of why any of their loyal viewers would actually *want* such a thing to happen. 

I’m sure a few people were fine with it once it was a fait accompli, but surely no one, ever, thought the show needed such a big dose of Mary that we all would end up choking on it.

Here’s the thing I’ve never understood: nobody in tjlc EVER wanted Mary to be a prominent character. Yet EVERYONE wanted her to be The Big Bad.

You literally could never have both. So what’s the issue?

Personally I hate season 4. But like. There’s always been a disconnect for me between fandom THEORIES and fandom DESIRE.

Mary could have been a great main character. The problem isn’t that she was given a big role. The problem was what that role turned out to be.

Sorry, but I have to disagree. Nor everyone wanted Mary to be a big bad. Honestly, I really didn’t care much for her at all. I didn’t want John Watson to have a wife, and if he must have one, she should vanish as soon as possible with as little impact as possible. Sad marriage, cheating, divorce – fine. Her being killed or being bad would still have given her way too much room in Sherlock’s and John’s life. That’s not what a Holmes/Watson adaption needs – being laden with the burden of an evil wife, out for revenge, or a dead wife, made into a saint.

Aside from Johnlock, when I watch a Sherlock Holmes adaption, I care for Sherlock Holmes and John Watson, their dynamic, their friendship, evolving through thrilling adventures and crime solving. I don’t care much for Hudders, Mycroft, Adler or any other canon character that was blown out of proportion on this show. And certainly not for Mary Watson or any other wife.

As for baddies – there are aplenty found in ACD canon. Not just Moriarty. Culverton Smith, for example, Adalbert Gruner, John Clay, Milverton, Abe Slaney, Dr. Grimesby Roylott,
Eustace Brackenstall

and so on. All great stories that could have been updated to modern times with a strong female element, as most of their victims are female, some resonating with today’s issues like the grooming done by Gruner in Illoustrous Client – and sometimes women, like in Abbey Grange, are also involved in the killing, if you need a more ambiguous element.

There simply was no narrative need for Mary. Her story was inconclusive, her motivation illogical, her character rather boring – because we knew virtually nothing about her, and what little we knew always changed. Plus it was clear from the beginning that she would leave eventually, for Doctor Watson’s wife isn’t really present in the original stories. So why should I as a viewer have got invested into her? Because she was Freeman’s partner and started to tweet with fans?

In retrospect, Mary is one big factor that destroyed the show. I wished I’d seen that clearer earlier.

Oh, and that plane scene wasn’t even funny or well acted. It was boring, too long and slightly embarrassing – like Mary’s whole arc.

Some of us speaking here were not part of TJLC, by the way. I’m speaking as a huge S1 & 2 fan who resented the enormous impact of the Mary character from the get-go in S3. 

Personally, I think people wanted her to turn into a bigger baddie than she was only because it would justify the emphasis that was immediately placed on her. When you introduce a third major character in a show that viewers thought had a two-person relationship at the heart of it (and that’s based on a canon in which Mary Morstan is only a blip), naturally they are going to be thinking there was an exciting reason why that character was brought in. It turns out there really wasn’t one; it was just a standard Moffat twist in the existing show universe.

So much good stuff here. First of all, TJLC or not, shipping Johnlock or not Mary was a HUGE blight on the show. I don’t care if you thought John and Sherlock were just friends or if you shipped them, she got in between and in the way of the duo that we all watch the show for and obliterated it. No Sherlock Holmes and John Watson should ever treat each other the way BBC’s version did, it was ghastly. And tho I know there are people who actually liked S4 (how??) I honestly don’t give two shits about them because this is my post and my blog and I hated it.

I never wanted Mary in the show. I agree we didn’t need her. When they announced AA as Mary I assumed they did it on purpose thinking that it would be an easier pill to swallow with her being Martin’s RL partner. I didn’t like Mary from TEH on, I thought she came off poorly, I know they were going for “cute and spunky” so I wasn’t overly shocked when it turned out she was “bad.” Since they made her shoot Sherlock I was all on board with the Villain Mary theories, I mean what else could they even DO with her?? She shot and killed Sherlock? She lied to and manipulated John?? There’s no coming back from that.

Well apparently TPTB thought a redemption ark that made no sense and a personality constantly changing were a better fit for Mary. TST was the most boring Sherlock episode EVER. I literally was checking the time and playing with my phone through the whole episode. I care about John and Sherlock and want a show about THEM. If they wanted to make BBC Mary they should have made a spin off of her adventures instead.

I honestly don’t know if Mofftiss are planning a S5. I have my doubts since they are working on their “exciting new project” together. I don’t know how much I’ll care when and if a S5 happens. I know if Mary is for any reason still around there’s no way in hell I’d watch it.

I just want to add an UH-HUH! to the conversation. 

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I think one of Mofftiss big problems is that they think the success of Sherlock is due to them. When actually the success of Sherlock is mostly due to Ben and Martin as Sherlock and John and their fantastic chemistry and great acting.

You separate John and Sherlock or have a chaperone there the whole time, as was done in S4,  and their pretty lackluster writing really starts to shine through.

Another big problem they have is that they think Benedict and Martin are stars because of their writing. Impossible to say, of course, but they failed at repeating the star-making with Amanda and Sian. Even though they tried very hard.

POINT. 

I think that given the divide in show quality, we also have to give a fair bit of credit to Paul McGuigan, especially for the consistencies of s1-2. It was s3 when they switched to the Doctor Who model of a different director for each ep—and directors who admittedly were out to put their own spin on things and top each other—that the show seemed to begin sinking under its own weight. What works for the “top this!” episodic style of Doctor Who, where the narrative has fluctuated and tied itself in knots regularly, is not what works for the relatively short arc the writers attempted with Sherlock BBC and its sequel, Mary BBC. Such consistency as the latter had does build on the work of the actors, but it’s clear that they were receiving different direction by then as well as being indulged more in their favorite “bits” (BC’s waiter in s3 and drugged Shakespeare in s4; MF’s asshole hair and demeanor that he’s been playing a lot recently in things like Startup or Civil War). The lack of cohesiveness may have been there from the beginning, but I don’t think that the writing alone held it in check until s3. 

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pixelpawnie:

So, they talk about the “groundbreaking” thing of playing three different roles… But before Sian Brooke there was another person in the Sherlock series that played three different roles. Meet Moriarty, Jim from IT and Richard Brook.

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They can tell me again that was the groundbreaking tv history they teased 😉

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AND THERE IT IS. I truly don’t believe that Eurus exists, but anyway ;p

Oh my god.

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neither loo nor amanda ever appeared like that on sherlock and both of these pics are from setlock so what fucking gives

mary playing grace!eurus i see

DUDE!

I really think they just like to goof around, I mean they are human too as we all are and actors, and badically big kidd who very much like to play around with their props and costumes. (eg. Ben loves to twiddle his props…)
Who wouldn’t, if they got the opportunity? If you could have all those awesome props and costumes and wigs etc. at hand, wouldn’t you also love to try them all out and just play with them and maybe to take some silly, or not so much silly but still, fun pictures with all of them and maybe share them with your friends or on social media? This messes up of course with us as an audience, becuse we start to assume what it could mean for the actual filmed episode…
So yeah, I think it does not necessarily have to mean that they actually did all that FOR the actual episode.

I have to start by saying I don’t consider myself a tinhatter and I don’t know how it works in the UK but in the U.S. if you’re working on a union production (which a show as big as Sherlock certainly would be) it would actually be really unprofessional and against union rules to “mess around with props and costumes” if they weren’t going to be used for some part of the show. Serious enough that you could be fired for doing things like this. IDK if any UK film people can comment on whether it wouldn’t be as big of a deal over there? The other option is that they were hanging out in Claire’s personal workshop and messing around?

I’m not sure about Louise, but I’m 99% certain that Amanda’s pic came from a cut scene in T6T. She posted that pic after the episode aired (like 2 days after if I remember correctly) so it probably was a “spoiler” for that episode. whatever scene it was from was probably cut.

I think it’s great that people hate Mary. It’s brilliant. It means I’m doing my job properly, because who wants a vanilla character? You don’t want to watch somebody who’s just pedestrian and boring. You want somebody to shake things up a bit. And if she’s making people hate her, that’s great. And if she’s making people love her, it’s equally brilliant. And I think, I wouldn’t be doing my job properly if people just went, ‘Meh, okay. Well she’s there.’

Amanda Abbington Interview with PBS – (x)