Martin talks about Sherlock, “the interview” and its repercusions and Benedict. Extract from the full 53 minute podcast
Ok, so he doesn’t hate Sherlock, and he’s read some cool fanfic, but Martin still denies that he and Ben ever played it as a gay relationship.
He’s a very very good liar (unlike Ben) so it’s always bizarre to hear him, he sounds so sincere. But, yeah, no. You’re way too good an actor to have that all be unintentional, even if you were wildly in love yourself. And too smart not to be aware of basic tropes in fiction as well. Yes, men can be close, but honestly you’re out of your mind if you’re claiming friends would ever grieve like that, be that sad at the others wedding, be that jealous, come back to life, etc, etc.
And his claimed blindness isn’t just about their performances, its also not being aware of historical context (queer readings since the stories were published), and claiming only supposedly deluded mega fans “imagined” the romance. Knowing it’s been a topic of discussion since the start could actually support the argument he was making, so maybe he’s actually ignorant—he could say that we’re projecting based on long held beliefs, and say that people project on every adaptation, it’s not just theirs. And it’s just not believable to say that casual fans didn’t see it as well—reviews said it from the start, and things like just kiss him already at that awards show. Yes some of it could be taken as a response to their “joke” but anyone seeing how strong that was, from the start, could have (would have) toned it down a bit if it wasn’t intended. Instead they ramped it up. So, yeah, you’re a liar. I don’t know why, but you’re a liar.
Is he aware of the fact how ridiculous he sounds? I don’t believe that Martin is such a shitty actor who can’t tell a difference between two best friends and two men who are pining for each other for years. He isn’t an idiot, he knows what he was doing in the pilot episode, in the Angelo’s scene, in “staff that you wanted to say” scene, in TSOT, and the tarmac scene, and the scene with Janine, and TAB, for God’s sake.
I believe what I see on the screen and I can’t care less about his words, especially such bullshit.
I do understand that he can’t (doesn’t want) tell the interviewer something like “yeah, I totally aware that we played something more than friends”, but why this blatant refusal? Martin, even Mark himself told us about using of homoerotic subtext and gay jokes that went too far. Where is the truth?
Audio recorded with my phone on October 3rd of this Labour of Love scene mainly featuring Martin Freeman (David Lyons MP) saying the line in the picture (you can hear a bit of Jean too but not the entire thing): “Some people are actually just bisexual you know, Jean”. I cleaned the audio it as much as I could with my little knowledge and with the help of @waitedforgarridebs. I amplified it a bit too. The picture is a photo of the play in paperback which you can buy from Amazon.
(just ignore the “click” sounds, they’re coming from the keys of my electronic keyboard and my phone was too close to it while recording)
TFP is so fakefakefake lalalaa~ ♪
I have no idea if someone’s already pointed this out but let’s just begin:
Funny coincidence. I was looking for a song to play on the electronic keyboard. It’s been a very long time since I last played (and I never really managed to use both hands at the same time *laugh*) so it had to be an easy one. I stumbled upon one that was called “Rousseau’s Dream”, listened to the first few notes and was like: Wait! You know that tune!
Turns out it was the tune of Eurus’ song.
And here we go:
The original tune is part of the French opera “Le devin du village” (The Village Soothsayer) by Jean-Jacques Rousseau.
Okay, I won’t go into detail about how the infidelity plot of the opera and Sherlock series 4 may be connected. What I find the most interesting is the soothsayer the protagonists seek advice from.
Remember what Mycroft said about Eurus?
“There is, in this facility, a prisoner whose intellectual abilities are of occasional use to the British government.” “She predicted the exact dates of the last three terrorist attacks on the British mainland after an hour on Twitter.”
This can’t be a mere coincidence. It just can’t. The universe is rarely so lazy.
But it gets better! Because this was just the original tune.
In 1819, Johann Baptist Cramer published a version of the tune – and this one’s much more similar to Eurus’ version – under the title “Rousseau’s Dream”. Rousseau’s. DREAM! (I burst out laughing when I read the title since I’m still convinced that not everything we saw in series 4 is real and that TFP, at least, takes place in Sherlock’s mind palace or is John’s TAB.)
But there’s still more!
It is also the tune of “Go Tell Aunt Rhody”, an American folk song. It’s about the death of Aunt Rhodey’s goose. A goose that died in a mill pond.
(And can we please talk about how similar “Aunt Rhodey” sounds to “Uncle Rudy/Rudi”?!)
And this still isn’t all!
Because THIS.DAMN.SONG plays heavily in “Resident Evil VII”, a survival horror video game!
And what is it about?
“The game proper takes place after the events of Beginning Hour [A/N: the teaser demo], which ended with the murder of a three-man TV crew by the possibly-infected Baker family members Jack and Mia. It features a new protagonist named Ethan Winters, a civilian who offers fewer combat skills than most previous Resident Evil protagonists. Ethan is searching for his missing wife, Mia, which leads him to a derelict plantation mansion, home of the Baker family.” (source: http://residentevil.wikia.com/wiki/Resident_Evil_7:_Biohazard/plot )
Now, listen to the song:
“I was raised in a deep, dark hole, A prisoner with no parole, They locked me up and took my soul, Shamed of what they’d made.”
asdfsgdsjashfkghjkljdsfkl
I can’t … I …
They could have easily composed a new tune for Eurus’ song. But they didn’t. They used this one! And all this can’t be a coincidence! (Because that would be one helluva one!)
This … TFP has to be fake/Sherlock’s mind palace/John’s TAB/etc.! It has to!
Tagging some people under the cut, I hope you don’t mind.
Love this! Being from the rural south in the US, I grew up hearing / singing “Go Tell Aunt Rhody” so Eurus’ theme has always been familiar to me. What I didn’t know was all the rest of this and the horror game tie in. Just. Wow. I need NO CONVINCING that all of Series 4 remains in Sherlock’s mp (and if we get a secret 4th ep or series 5) that that reveal will be the rug pull they’ve been talking about. But it continues to be gravy to keep finding all these things that back up my thoughts on this theory. EMP lives on.
What an amazing find, @sockenpuppe! This cannot be a coincidence, especially since the song appears in so many versions. And you know what this reminds me of? The Appledore theme from HLV which is very similar to the “Cold Song” from Henry Purcell’s opera “King Arthur”. I have written a little meta about it: X.
So there is a precedent of Arnold and Price using a piece of Baroque music as a template for a key theme in Sherlock.
And remember the convo we had about Bach! Btw, when I read your cold song post, I was reminded of eldritchhorrors fic with the same name, never finished but left in 2013, before shooting for s3 even began. That story describes Sherlock playing the Chaconne… I wonder when this piece will feature in the soundtrack…
This is an audio clip of Rupert Graves from Sherlocked Oct 2017 – the Question was 2 part, about Sherlock being a good/great man & looking after Mycroft. Because there has been much confusion (here) on what Rupert said/meant by “‘He’ can
look after Mycroft until ‘I’ come along” & which way round is Sherlock/Greg in the he & I… So I have uploaded it here for you to listen to, I wasn’t going to upload this audio – I only recorded it with my dictaphone so that I can make transcripts/quotes as the sound quality is terrible, the microphone is not that good and the hall makes the sound muffled & compere is talking a lot & leading Rupert a bit. Anyways… enjoy!
We had the wonderful opportunity of interviewing Yasmine Akram, Janine from The Sign of Three, The Last Vow and The Abominable Bride. So many questions were asked! Including: The kiss! What happened behind the bathroom door? Is Janine, Moriarty’s sister? Along with a Wedding full of giggles! She takes us behind the scenes and speaks of the great talents involved in making Sherlock.
Joe Lidster talks about the process behind the blogs he writes for BBC Sherlock in a Feb 2012 (x) interview, post Sherlock S2 airing.
JOE: The thing that we’re all very keen on, is that they’re done ‘as real’. I mean, obviously on this websites you have to have a disclaimer somewhere, so people won’t think it’s a total new person (…) But on the blog itself and on the website; very keen that it’s all done in-universe, it’s all done as real. That there’s no sort of giveaway so this isn’t part of that universe.
INTERVIEWER: From what I saw, they all look very very subtle.
JOE: They’re very suble, I think there’s a tiny sort of thing at the bottom of the page. I mean, you have to be careful, because specially since it’s the BBC, it have to be seen to be truthful, so there is a disclaimer. It’s basically at the bottom of the page –I think it says ‘more information’– or something like that, and that takes you to a page that basically says ‘it’s a part of the Sherlock universe, here are the websites’.
If they’ve always been so careful to make it all look real, with only that tiny link to a disclaimer at the bottom of the page to account for it belonging to BBC…
Why would they put that huge message linking to the show’s website and utterly destroy the fourth wall? Perhaps because they wanted to cement the idea that the show’s universe is no longer “real”?
@teaandforeshadowing Very true! And I just realized they may have warned us about this long ago, back in TEH:
SHERLOCK: You have to trust me. I’ll find the answer. It’ll be
in an odd phrase in an online blog, or an unexpected trip to the
countryside, or a misplaced Lonely Hearts ad. (…) Rest
assured, Mycroft – whatever this underground network of yours is up
to, the secret will reside in something seemingly insignificant or
bizarre.
‘The answer will be in a seemingly insignificant, bizarre, odd phrase in an online blog’. Sherlock actually said that.
And it gets better when you factor in that Sherlock was talking about what turned out to be a very carefully planned conspiracy featuring a bisexual-coloured ticking time bomb hidden right underneath Sumatra Road –a nod to ‘the story for which the World is not yet prepared’.
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