What did rachel talalay say about johnlock?

whimsicalethnographies:

pocketcrow:

isitandwonder:

whimsicalethnographies:

treatyoselfparty:

whimsicalethnographies:

treatyoselfparty:

pocketcrow:

ghislainem70:

I assume this is in response to my post yesterday, http://ghislainem70.tumblr.com/post/157298190629/sussexbound-you-know-i-should-probably-clear

The tumblr I was referring to has since been taken down, it was called tjlc_we_need_to_talk, a side blog of scriptscribbles.

Rachel Talalay is also on tumblr.

She said (to scriptscribbles) “I love your blog and how much you are fighting for rationality in #TJLC.”

She also said (to scriptscribbles) “my daughter updates me on your battle with the johnlockers, and we keep up an amused dialogue. Keep it up!”

tjlc_we_need_to_talk stated (in response to gentlewatson) that Rachel Talalay’s encouragement was “a motivating factor” in maintaining the blog.

Receipts: http://isitandwonder.tumblr.com/post/151621770501/you-dont-have-to-believe-in-tjlc-or-johnlock

Well there it is. 

I’m sharing this on both my Granada blog and main blog because I feel people need to be aware that this happened (I was not previously aware Rachel was doing this).

For those who do not already know, a reminder that Rachel Talalay is the person who directed Sherlock Season 4. 

The fact that she has been supporting anti-Johnlock blogs on Tumblr is further proof that there were people in BBC One (including the writers) who really were against Johnlock happening.  Yes,  they really did treat lgbt like a “Joke” and very intentionally.

Yes they really did do that to season 4, it really did happen, there is no Johnlock plan and no they are not sorry.

Granted the way both BBC and the writers systematically reacted to the audience with the rudeness, attempts at erasure and generally dismissive attitudes was warning as it was, but this information really nails the coffin in for me.

There is no secret episode and they really did trash the show as badly as they did with the complete and utter disrespect and belittling of the Garridebs moment as well as the rest of the sexist and heternomative bs.

yeah part of the reason I stopped watching Sherlock is because I knew deep down that Johnlock was just going to be queer baiting and this unfortunately confirms it 

Keep up. It’s fake https://twitter.com/rtalalay/status/832356737017585671

“keep up” bitch shut up I don’t watch the show anymore so I’m not exactly following all the news about it and forgive me for believing that a ship was used as queerbait when its the norm for writers to do that in most tv and movies

You follow it enough to reblog something with a comment LONG after the original post was disproven. In fact, had you checked the comments on the post you reblogged you would have seen it. You don’t have to be actively following it to do that.

Have a nice Friday.

@pocketcrow @whimsicalethnographies @ghislainem70

I delved deep into my archived messages. I am one of the people in the above thread and included that alleged Rachel Talalay tweet in one of my posts. It was during some discussions with and about the blog tjlc-we-need-to-talk (set up by scr1ptscr1bbles), and the ‘answer’ from Rachel Talalay was on their main site scr1ptscr1bbles. Afterwards, this happened:

I deleted it to my knowledge, but of course the reblogs exist. I am usually not for sharing messages, but I wasn’t asked to keep them to myself and now I feel it might shed some light on the issue.

With @dymm contacting Rachel Talalay and her stating that these are not her words, the whole issue starts to get very fishy. I now believe that scr1ptscr1bbles intentionally manufactured this reply but then got afraid that their fraud might spread and therefore asked me to delete my post containing it.

I tried to check it back then and it looked genuine to me, but I’m surely not an internet buff.

This is playing really dirty imo because it discredits third parties just for the sake of looking to be right. Sorry to everyone involved.

And shame on you scr1ptscr1bbles! Even if you asked me to delete it and perhaps understood that you went too far – you shouldn’t have done this in the first place. You were not just an idiot, but mean – to fans and Rachel Talalay. Because you never confessed that you fabricated that message, but instead evoked the impression that you wanted to protect people when you were just lying though your teeth.

Lesson learned – at least by me.

I was really upset by the message and I really wish people would STOP MESSING AROUND with the Johnlock fandom.  As if what BBC and writers did was not bad enough, people do not need to trying to mess with upset people on top of that. 

I REALLY appreciate that Rachel Talalay was nice enough to speak out and debunk this and am glad it is being shared around.

I am VERY thankful to @isitandwonder for keeping us in the loop and letting us know (I had deleted the reblog that included my first response this morning after I found out it was faked and shared Rachel’s response.)

Also, @whimsicalethnographies, the above post was in response to a blog that was shared on my feed yesterday morning, and was disproven by that afternoon from someone sharing the proof otherwise to me. I had since deleted the earlier response so as to try to prevent any further spread of the falsified quote.  Your implication of the post being ‘old’ is full of shit. There are no dates on these blogs (in case you completely and utterly fail to notice).  It looked to be new information (it was certainly new to me) and shared as such.  So stuff it with your implied negative attitude that those of us responding to the news were in any way doing anything was intentional or malicious because it is quite literally bull.

We have VERY valid reasons to be upset.  We have no actual proof that a 4th episode exists yet. None… just speculation.  And then on top of what happened in the show itself, BBC attempted erasure by the way it treated complains and then not reporting on it (while reporting on the few dozen ATY received) and the writers have been explicitly rude in their responses to female Johnlockers.  

Now consider all of this, and then seeing the OP with no indication that it was faked (until afterwards).  Yes.  Seeing that is going to be upsetting (especially as, as far as we knew, it was true information).  You are being incredibly rude and out of line.  

Instead of being rude to people, you can TRY being understanding on exactly why we were upset, be understanding of those who did not know the post was fake and responded as such, and why we would be skeptical of anything else coming out when nothing from -bbc itself- has yet to indicate any intent to offer a fourth episode to fix the forced heteronormative coding that was pushed in TFP.  

People have VERY valid reasons to be skeptical… and then to see something like this with no indication that it was faked, it ends up being tip of the iceberg. Yes, she said it was faked and I am relieved, but that was not shared until after the original post was shared. So enough with being catty and bitchy to bunt-out johnlockers who are upset enough as it is FOR GOOD REASON and you can just take a seat.

They reblogged the post AFTER many of us made comments about it. You can’t see time but you can see order. Conveniently, so many have deleted the originals by now it’s fucky, many without explicitly saying they were wrong (I know you did acknowledge it).  So, that “no time” is pseudo evidence bullshit.  Guess I’m gonna have to start screen shotting everything when I reply to it. 

I get people are upset and angry, but if half of us are expected to take a second and think rationally, everyone else needs to as well.  This was clearly bullshit from a known bullshit spreader who you know wants to hurt you.  Thank goodness Dymm actually asked.

Also, you literally jump on random posts to be salty and act as if you’re the only rational adult in the room, so you don’t get to play “staying in line” especially when I admittedly saltily pointed out it was disproven (in the same tone many of us have experienced from you), and was called a bitch. 

Have a good day. 

Reblogging for comments. I’m keeping the other post I reblogged for reference. I apologize to everyone for not fact checking!

Post has been debunked!