tjlcisthenewsexy:

raggedyblue:

possiblyimbiassed:

tjlcisthenewsexy:

“[Season 4] is going to be… I suppose you’d say… consequences. It’s consequences.” – Steven Moffat x

Remember this quote? These are from Doctor Who’s The Zygon Inversion, episode co-written by Steven Moffat:

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Somebody is playing word games. It turns out, actually, (after I thought to check), that Moffs was quoted saying this just 3 months before The Zygon Inversion was filmed, which is – I mean I don’t know much about how these things happen – but like…..possibly around the general time that Moffat was likely to be writing the episode??? The interview linked above where Moffs was quoted was published in March 2015. The Zygon Inversion was filmed in May 2015. Connection much? So according to their own little riddle, if S4 was consequences, then it wasn’t the truth.

Great find @tjlcisthenewsexy! I haven’t watched that particular DW episode, but in general I strongly suspect Moffat of playing word games, and other games too, with us. 

But to me this expression is really funny. Because in my country, this game – ‘Truth or Dare’ – has been popular among the kids for as long as I can remember. But we call it ‘Truth or Consequence’. The idea is that you have to choose; either you tell the truth, or suffer the consequences. The other player asks you some embarrassing or ‘matter-of-the-heart’ question, like ‘Who are you in love with?’, and you have to answer truthfully. If you refuse to tell the truth, you have to pay by doing something embarrassing or painful or otherwise inconvenient of your opponent’s choice. And the game goes on until the players get tired of it and want to quit. 

So, if we try to apply this on Sherlock (and my belief is that the whole of this show is from Sherlock’s perspective), what possible truth is there that Sherlock refuses to tell us (or anyone, for that matter, including himself)? That he’s in love with John Watson! Well, he actually sort of says it in his best man speech in TSoT, but only in a way that could be taken for an expression of close friendship. He’s not really truthful, is he? So then he must suffer the consequences, and that’s S4! 🙂 He must go through all the pain and suffering that is HLV and TAB and S4; he must see John leave him for someone who breaks his heart shoots him and build a family with this person, reject him and even beat him up. But not even at that point does Sherlock admit to being in love. And then he is converted into an emotional lab rat in TFP. That’s some dire consequences, isn’t it? 

So yes, Steven Moffat, I agree; S4 is about consequences, and the game is on! 😉

@ebaeschnbliah @gosherlocked @sarahthecoat @raggedyblue @sagestreet @someovermind

Truth and Consequences is also the name of a radio program, then television, which also derives the name of the town, real, which appears in the episodes of Doctor Who. The concept is the same of the game that children do, they have to choose between an embarrassing dare or an embarrassing truth. In the radio game the players had to choose between answering too difficult questions or undergoing ridiculous challenges. Often in the midst of these ridiculous trials there was a tearful moment, perhaps with the reunification of a long lost family member. Definitely, I agree with @possiblyimbiassed, it sounds very similar to Sherlock who chooses not to tell the whole truth, at the wedding, at stag night , on the tarmac, and finds himself having to suffer ridiculous consequences …. with family reunification included

@ebaeschnbliah @gosherlocked @sarahthecoat @possiblyimbiassed@sagestreet @someovermind

It’s not a game anymore!! 🙂

I did a lot of looking for anything else about the original radio program and TV show, and I found this too…

That’s Basil Rathbone on the 6th anniversary show of Truth or Consequences on March 23, 1946 x x 🙂

@raggedyblue @possiblyimbiassed

ebaeschnbliah:

mollydobby:

Elephant Trumpeting on Thin Ice (Doctor Who S10E03 🐘) 

“We just called the episode ‘The Final Problem’ for s—s and giggles. We don’t know yet, and I’ve been busy working on other shows. Our show gallops along like a glacier, but expect another ice age in the future.”

Steven Moffat, Variety Interview, Sept. 15 2017

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This is for you @sagestreet​  Thankfully your memory is as good as that of an elephant.  :)))))  

Galloping like a glacier …. ICE AGE in the future ….  what a stange coincidence ….

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@gosherlocked @loveismyrevolution @sherlockshadow @monikakrasnorada @sarahthecoat @221bloodnun @kateis-cakeis @raggedyblue @tjlcisthenewsexy @mollydobby @tendergingergirl @darlingtonsubstitution

Sherlock (TV series) + Doctor Who (TV series) – Timeline of 57′s mentions in Moffat’s work

bug-catcher-in-viridian-forest:

bug-catcher-in-viridian-forest:

The number 57 notoriously recurs in Moffat’s work and this timeline aims to report its mentions.

To note:

  • The time indicates the airdate.
  • This timeline is limited to explicit mentions in the dialogue, as this are the only ones that are almost certain to have been intentionally placed by Moffat, and other explicit mentions by Moffat himself.
  • This timelines excludes mentions of 57 in episodes showrunned by Moffat when they have not also been written by him.
  • This timeline excludes mentions of numbers similar to 57 (like for example 507), even if they might have been intentionally chosen due to their similarity to it.

2007:

  • 21 july
    Jekyll: Episode Five

MR. HYDE: 57 years old, ex-smoker, gave up two years ago?

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2010:

  • 3 april
    Doctor Who:

    The Eleventh Hour

DOCTOR: Article 57 of the Shadow Proclamation.

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2012:

  • 1 january
    Sherlock: A Scandal In Belgravia

JOHN: 57?
SHERLOCK: Sorry, what?
JOHN: 57 of those texts, the ones I’ve heard. 

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  • Uknown date before 15 january 2012
    (since he deleted his Twitter account)
    Twitter

millieisshort: @Markgatiss @steven_moffat on a scale of 1 to 10, how happy are you to see the fandom suffering already?
Steven Moffat: @millieisshort @Markgatiss 57 

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2013:

  • 23 november
    Doctor Who:

    The Day Of The Doctor: Cinema Intro

THE DOCTOR (11): I just watched the 100th anniversary special, all 57 doctors.

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2014:

  • 25 december
    Doctor Who: Last Christmas

THE DOCTOR: Clara. Give me any two digit
CLARA : 57.
THE DOCTOR: All right, all of you, turn to page 57 and look at the very first word.

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2015:

  • 28 november
    Doctor Who: Heaven Sent

THE DOCTOR: 57 minutes. 

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2017:

  • 27 may
    Doctor Who:

    The Pyramid at the End of the World

BRABBIT: 11:57 PM.
BILL: Yeah, mine too.
SECRETARY-GENERAL: It’s everyone’s. 11.57 PM.
NARDOLE: Did you get that, sir? Everyone’s phone’s gone to 11:57.
DOCTOR: Yep, same here.
BILL: What’s, what does that mean, 11:57?

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REFERENCES

Chakoteya’s Doctor Who’s Transcripts

This list may not be complete because I haven’t watched everything Moffat, but just to show you that the number 57 predates BBC Sherlock, so if anything it is probably tied to Moffat as a person.

The DW shakespeare reference is not one of this examples, not even considering Moffat’s showrunned episodes not written by him.

There is no consensus in the DW fandom on 57 being about bisexuality and some believe it is about the mention of ‘time’ in the sonnet.
The belief that it was tied to bisexuality was held only by johnlockers and without a certain reason, as the first 126 sonnets are all addressed to a man and to this day, even if I asked more than once, nobody came to me with a source about 57 being more relevant than all the other 126 sonnets to bisexuality.

enjoytheelephant:

monikakrasnorada:

tjlcisthenewsexy:

Okay okay okay hold the phone. Slow down Steven. Did anyone pick this up after Moffat’s comment…..was it at the London Sherlocked?? And it was to a fan or something? He said that “Mary shot Sherlock nicely.”

Blink, DW season 3, 2007, written by Steven Moffat…

“DOCTOR: Fascinating race, the Weeping Angels. The only psychopaths in the universe to kill you nicely….

….No mess, no fuss, they just zap you into the past and let you live to death. The rest of your life used up and blown away in the blink of an eye. You die in the past, and in the present they consume the energy of all the days you might have had. All your stolen moments. They’re creatures of the abstract. They live off potential energy.”

THEY ZAP YOU INTO THE PAST (Forwards or backwards? Backwards! Into the past (symbolically i mean….the past where society required the platonic version of johnlock). Mary did that when she “shot him nicely”. THEY LET YOU LIVE TO DEATH. She sent him “back” to live out his days, like the final TFP montage shows. Stolen moments. That sounds familiar. The rest of Sherlock’s life, used up and blown away. Send help. 

STEVEN.

Jesus.

Clues like this make me hope that the writers are really careless and not connecting things in their own writing. Because this would be a horrible thing to do to their own characters even metaphorically. And yet it seems that Sherlock and John are getting hit really hard both on the screen and beneath the surface. Free them!

The Time of Our Lives (Steven Moffat’s final DWM Column)

alphacentauriiswatchingyou:

You know something I don’t know. You know who the next Doctor is. At least, I think that will be out by the time you read this. Old Chibs (as he must always now be known) is playing his cards close to his chest, and won’t tell me a thing. I attempted to give him some sage advice on the subject of secrecy, but he gave me a look, as if to say, “Seriously, have you checked your own record on this??” and had me removed by security. Again. But it’s comfy here, in my skip in the Roath Lock car park, and Russell is good company. When we’re both not crying, that is.

Actually, I’m not comfy at all. I’ve got everything crossed. Can Old Chibs pull it off? Can we actually have a new Doctor that’s a proper surprise, the way it’s supposed to be? I do hope so! But you know all that by now, out there, in the glorious new dawn.

And the fact is, I have no more news for you. Barely any secrets to keep. One more Special on Christmas Day, and I’ll be gone before the end credits. A brand-new team will go blazing into action, and in the far future, vast new Andrew Pixley Archives will form in the void.

But frankly, even I don’t care about me – this is all about Peter Capaldi. I saw him at the end, you know. The very last shot you see of him as the Doctor is in fact (brilliant scheduling by amazing producer, Pete Bennett) the very last thing Peter did on the show. Just as popping out the TARDIS and confusing Strax was the very first thing he did in Deep Breath, all those centuries ago. Since then he’s faced down a Mummy on the Orient Express, talked down a Zygon war using a couple of empty boxes, punched a wall for four and a half billion years, misunderstood the romantic intent of a puddle, decked a racist, insulted Santa, had a 24-year date in a restaurant, and played gooseberry when Missy met herself. He’s been gentle and fierce and rude and kind, and now with a wave of his hand and a flap of his cuff, he’s striding into the sunset to give it a piece of his mind. Be there for him on Christmas Day – Scotland’s finest in his final hour. He’ll break your heart and save your galaxy, all over again.

It was funny, that last day. I was in the studio for most of it, which is the first time I’ve ever managed that on Doctor Who. Normally, there’s so much else to do – new season to plan, new scripts to write, new stars to find. But now, with my time on the show winding down, with desks falling empty, and computers falling silent, and endless rounds of goodbye drinks, there’s nowhere else for me to be.

Brian Minchin is here today. And we sit and laugh and chat, and marvel at Peter’s extraordinary final performance. Every take is different and beautiful in a new way, and how the hell are we supposed to choose just one? It’s not goodbye to Brian, I’m delighted to say – he’s joining me and Sue at Hartswood Films, and we have dark and mighty plans.
Rachel Talalay, our finale specialist, is directing. She’s come back to see number 12 off into the shades but I very much hope she’ll be directing more Doctor Whos in the future. She keeps hinting that she won’t, though.

“You’re already directing the new one – you’re doing the regeneration!”
“Yes, but apart from that.”
“You probably know who the new Doctor is, and everything!”
“No, I don’t”
“You had a secret dinner with Matt Strevens and Old Chibs!”
“It wasn’t secret!”
“Well, I didn’t know about it.”
“No-one thought to tell you, it was just for people who are… you know…”
“What?”
“Involved.”

I was alright after a bit, and the nurse with the oxygen was very nice.

“Who’s the new Doctor?” I demanded to know from my stretcher, mostly in hand signals.
“I don’t know,” lied Rachel, probably.
“Just the initials.”
“I don’t know.”
“Will you tell me if I cry?”
“You’re already crying.”
“… Would you like ten pounds?”

There’s another goodbye coming up – and frankly it’s right here. My old friend, the wise and kind King of Numbers himself, Tom Spilsbury, is leaving this magazine. It’s funny, we’ve done almost everything in parallel in Doctor Who. He was assistant editor on the mag, while I was an occasional writer for Russell’s era. He became editor only shortly before I became showrunner. And now, at the end, we’re tumbling out the door together. We’ve tumbled out of quite a few doors together, but I’m damned if I’m telling you which pubs. Once a month, for so many years, Tom would remind me that this column was due. No, that’s a lie. He’d remind me several times a month. Towards the end, in a very high voice, with crying. Well, no more! These days are over. Tom’s entirely brilliant era of DWM is drawing to a close with every word you read, my time on Doctor Who is vanishing like breath on a mirror, and this column too is about to pop out of existence.

It’s funny how things you take for granted just disappear, isn’t it? That school you went to every day and then never go back to, that friend you part from laughing and never see again, all those doors that click behind you without you knowing they’re closing forever. I first wrote Doctor Who in 2004, and I very much hoped I’d get to write it again. Then I wrote more, and then so much more, until I thought it might go on forever. I remember at some awards dinner, telling Brian I loved my job so much I couldn’t imagine ever stopping. In other more melancholy moments I knew that everything ends and wondered what the very last words I’d ever write about Doctor Who would be. Well, the time has come, and here they are.

All my love, good luck and goodbye.

pseudonymitea:

journeydownthequeer:

scriptscribbles:

Let’s get this straight for all the people spouting inaccuracies. I wanted to just celebrate Jodie, but I can’t stomach the misinformation.

1. Steven Moffat was not fired from Doctor Who. He is stepping down from the show if his own volition.
2. Steven Moffat has been paving the way for a woman Doctor for ages, writing passages in support of it in official Who content as early as the 90s. He has since cast the first woman Master and shown a white man regenerate into a black woman, as well as has written Doctor-like women leads like River Song and Clara Oswald, the latter of whom even got her own TARDIS.
3. His writing of this has had a tangible impact on increasing support for a woman Doctor. In the aftermath of the reveal if Michelle Gomez as the Master in 2014, for example, fan site DoctorWhoTV found support for a woman as the Doctor increase from 13% to 46.47%. Subsequent use of Missy and other characters fitting that subtext has further increased support over the past few years.

Jodie Whittaker as the Doctor is an absolute triumph. Seriously, huge kudos to Chris Chibnall for that. But don’t act like Moffat has been getting in the way of this. No matter how you feel about him as a writer, he played an important role in getting us to this point.

“I like that Helen Mirren has been saying the next doctor should be a woman. I would like to go on record and say that the Queen should be played by a man.”

—  Steven Motherfucking Moffat, Everyone

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I was actually happy about today but then I saw this revisionist bullshit on my dash and honestly I’m a good person and I don’t deserve this.

(long meta post is long as fuck so the rest is under the cut)

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#also do you know what’s the best and fastest way to pave the way for a female doctor #actually casting them during your run on the show you cowards #all this bullshit about how grateful we should be to moffat for something he didn’t even give us #ugh #//ugh// #as if someone needs to ~paaave~ the way first ffs #you *~pave~* the way by being the first and every minority knows that

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