Mofftiss at Cambridge Union Q &A, link here https://consultingdadtective.tumblr.com/post/156233780067/the-mofftiss-talk-in-cambridge
Apparently they never got their actors, directors, or other members of their production staff this memo.
Nice they see this level of blatant queerbaiting a joke.
These men… Arrogant. Unrepentant. I wash my hands of them.
“Perhaps we took the joke too far…”
You don’t say…
Tag: Queerbaiting
if not johnlock, then What
They did this. They did all of this, and then acted shocked and frustrated when we started asking about their relationship.
News flash, Mofftiss, if you’re not going to give us a fucking tree, then DON’T FUCKING PLANT THE SEED.
Queerbaiting And Other Fun Games For the Wealthy Privileged: By Steven Unfamiliar With The Concept of Emotional Fall-Out and the Resolution Thereof Moffat and Mark Traitor to His Own Community Gatiss
remember that mark gatiss quote that went something like ‘’the day we have a detective show about a guy who solves crimes for an hour, then goes home where his husband is waiting for him, is the day we’ve achieved something’’. MARK MY GUY YOU LITERALLY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS EXACTLY AND YOU JUST DIDN’T?
instead he deliberately played with homoerotic subtext/text and made it into something for homophobes to laugh at. he talks about achieving equality when he is literally part of the problem keeping us from that
the words John and Sherlock wanted to say but never could were placed on a coffin and then destroyed to smithereens by Sherlock himself, good times
And he was forced to give those words to a woman instead. As a gay man he was forced to say I love you to a woman and never allowed to say it to the man he really loved.
Okay but this is too on the nose to be something they would legitimately present as canon. Everything has been far too pointed in this show, the explit queerness of it AND the explicit forced heterosexuality. This scene was the physical embodiment of what happens when you force heterosexuality on people. Its hurts everyone involved. Molly (despite having been let down both harshly and gently multiple times) loves Sherlock, but as a gay man he can not love her in the same way. When he is forced to, it destroys them both. Its tragic, but its real. I think thats what they were purposely trying to show.
tfw you find out you were purposely being queerbaited by a gay man all along
This was after ASIB aired, btw. Here’s the author of the article’s twitter with the link she provided to this article in the first place, and here is her review of TFP/S4 which has been going around this morning
Queercoding your protagonist and then constantly suggesting both within the text and in promotional materials and interviews that whether he will fall in love absolutely is queerbaiting.
“And equally, I find flirting with the homoeroticism in Sherlock much more interesting.” Mark Gatiss
So thanks for the confirmation that we really weren’t seeing things all along.
Mark Gatiss confirming he was queerbaiting all along
SHITHEAD
Right, so just for context, that quote is from the October 2010 issue of Buzz magazine and here is the full quote in its entirety:
Despite this lack of public awareness, being part of the gay community is clearly important to Gatiss:
“The older I get the more I want to give something back. I mean, I keep meaning to do something.” When asked if he’d be interested in making a series about gay issues, his response was enlightening:
“No, I don’t think I’d make a kind of gay programme. It’s much more interesting when it’s not about a single issue. And equally, I find flirting with the homoeroticism in Sherlock much more interesting. Of course this reflects the grand picture of everyone’s strange make-up; there are good gay people and bad gay people. I wouldn’t like to make an issue film around the culture of being gay.”
The thing is, I get what he means, in a way. Because, yes, “flirting with the homoeroticism” in Sherlock is interesting and makes for fantastic telly. Personally, I’d still say his intentions were mostly good, he just monumentally bollixed the execution.
Cool motive. Still queerbaiting.
So
When John Watson says “I’m not gay” that is unassailable truth, 100% straight all the way, no arguments there
But when Irene Adler says “I am gay” that is negotiable, a movable feast, we’ll see how it goes until the right chap comes along
Me, banging pots and pans: *CRITICIZING THE SHOW AND CONDEMNING QUEERBAITING IS NOT THE SAME AS SENDING HATE TO THE WRITERS!WE DESERVE TO BE HEARD! ART IS CREATED TO BE CONSUMED AND THE CONSUMER DICTATES ITS WORTH!!*
Every title I could think of was too long, too: Thoughts on series 4 (and 1-3). Johnlock, Mary, Queer baiting, plot holes, how human relationships work, and other things that made me use a lot of caps
All right, folks. It’s 4,500 words long, hahaha. I feel like I just gave birth. Read on, if you dare.