Something I thought was very strange was the fact Moffat said he doesn’t understand why so many people think BBC Sherlock is over. I mentioned that the ending Montage of S4 made it seem like a good place to end a series – that it felt like it was a purposeful ending. He scoffed, not at all understanding that TFP could wrap up the entire show. It’s like he just didn’t *get* it. To me, it’s obvious why viewers could see a comfortable ending there and absurd that he doesn’t see it.
I felt like our roles were switched. I argued that the Montage in TFP felt like an ending, he argued that it’s not the intention of that moment at all.
Make of that what you will, i feel like i sometimes slip into an AU while at this con.
I am going go with my gut feeling that OUR BOYS have both decided not to come back. Aside from the butchering of Freeman’s character, I just remember Ben commenting in the bonus footage for TAB, that when they first told him the idea, he said he thought they had ‘lost the plot’. Can you imagine what he thought of S4? He’s not there, is he? Moffat is desperate for the party to not be over. It’s just too bad he crapped on his lead actors for some badly-written girl power.
As always, I’m on the periphery of conversation, but I overhear that Moffatt described Mary as having shot Sherlock nicely. That’s a relief, because I thought it was a savage, cold blood attempt on his life. But it was nice, so I worried needlessly.
I wonder if that is a consideration in sentencing a convicted nice shooter? “Your Honour, she shot him at close range and blasted his hepatic artery open, but she was pregnant, and she was very polite about it, and she wore this really interesting black beanie, so it was a nice shooting. I recommend a suspended sentence and some booties for the new baby.”
It opens up a whole new genre of assault and homicide, doesn’t it?
To shoot someone nicely.
To stab someone nicely.
To run over someone nicely.
To burn someone’s house down nicely.
To throw someone under a bus nicely.
Or have I misunderstood? Is shooting someone nicely subtext for we forgot what happened in the other series, so we just took a guess and filled the rest in with approximations?
John beat and kicked the shit out of Sherlock nicely.
Sherlock’s quite a small world, actually, so we can’t do everything in that. But to take the other show… Doctor Who, I think, can do more, and should do more. And we’re working harder every year to try and get that better. But the perspective that I always look at is that I don’t think about it – and nobody should think about it – as ‘satisfying the activists’ or ‘satisfying the pressure groups’. That’s not what’s important. What you’ve got to be saying to children is that you are all welcome, and that there are loads of people like you, and you all belong out there in this space, in the future, and that’s what matters. The ticking boxes exercise is never going to work, because it ends in what you call tokenism.
Steven Moffat asked ‘How do you deal with treading the line between representation and tokenism within the show?’ (x)
Saying it again bc it’s more appropriate on this quote –
So if it ended with bad female characters, and bad gay characters and a big gay gun over the mantel that never went off, and the aces are pissed about “romantic entanglements,” and the neurodivergent folks are upset at how both Sherlock and Eurus were handled, and even the dogs in the audience are barking about dog erasure, then what are we looking at as an “improvement?” Hudders got more lines in t6t?
They literally could have done better even in this “small” show without sacrificing any “plot” or making anyone feel like they were “checking boxes.” For god’s sake, we DON’T want you to check boxes, we want you to UNcheck a couple you didn’t need. Leave out one line, for example, don’t make Eurus queer and rapey; done. And tell me, where has the show lost any integrity without that?
There, that one’s free, off you pop and do better now, boys.
steven moffat like “demand better from your writers!” but the minute you start demanding better from him he throws all his toys out the pram and spits in your direction
If you want to play with the canon, Steven, do not throw the canon
Steven Moffat: “… in the whole sixty story canon, he [Arthur Conan Doyle] allows one moment of genuine affection between Sherlock Holmes and Dr Watson. You always know it’s there. There’s one moment in ‘The Three Garridebs’…” Mark Gatiss: “You’ve hurt my Watson.” Steven Moffat: “…when Holmes for a moment… yeah, ‘You’ve hurt my Watson.’ And that’s it. And I think, arguably – and we would argue quite strongly – that under the surface – you know, the detective stories are merely the surface – is the story of the greatest friendship ever.”
The Garridebs moment in TFP:
the point of this post is that this like, can’t be real
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