Amanda Abbington and Sue Vertue about Sherlock S4. (x)
HAHAH! BLESS AMANDA!!! 🙂 Sue’s face though!
GIF 1: This one is the best series for me GIF 2: I keep telling people if we can pull this off… GIF 3: … it will be “television history” GIF 4: I think it really will because it’s kind of groundbreaking GIF 5: They’ve done something again… these guys GIF 6: and that… that’s never been done before GIF 7: And it’s dead exciting. GIF 8: Yeah, you know what it is! I’m not saying anymore…
(sorry I had a hard time reading these)
OMG SUE’S FACE IN GIF 6 AND 7 THOUGH.
Amanda’s been put in the basement LOL.
Amanda couldn’t shut up if her life depended on it. As for ground-breaking, with Cucumber and Queer as Folk, we have seen pretty much everything on TV, so methinks Johnlock may be real. As in, breaking the canon. Let’s hope so.
My guess is that she was talking about Season 4 as that season was supposedly going to be the end of the series, by ending all opened arcs (as there wasnt or isnt any S5 planned, just Dracula in their hands now) So then Amanda should have shut up, as Sue´s face was pretty telling, because she knew that..
Season 4 would be the worst season
That they wouldn´t pull it off
That it´d be television history, for the worst reasons in the whole series…
So it wouldn´t be groundbreaking… (And that´s why TFP wasn´t sent to the Emmy´s)…
And yeah, Sue and Mofftiss knew that there is one thing that they would do again, that is, queerbaiting us all again…So, been there done that before…
And Sue and Mofftiss could see we weren´t excited once the TFP preview finished, and not just because we didn´t see explicit JL, they dead us all before the end of the episode by all the bad writing…yeah we know what it is…NOW
the tfp screening, them asking politely for people not to share spoilers, people doing it anyway, then the leak the next day, which they advertised on sue’s twitter … like ….. do you ever just
Sue said that season five won’t get planned or written until Ben and Martin commit, and made an offhand comment like “when they’re less busy.” It sounded distant. Steven similarly said that he had no idea at all where the next season would go, and hadn’t thought about it yet. He’s busy with Dr. who now and might take a year off when that’s done.
Something about Mary…..first off, Amanda was supposed to be here but cancelled just a few days ago. Bummer. During my pic signing with Steven I asked him if he felt Mary redeemed herself at the end, or was she still morally dubious. This started a fairly long Mary defense, that she shot Sherlock nicely, that if Sherlock was ok with it why wouldn’t we be, that she had more to overcome in her past thus her moving toward to good had more meaning. He was QUITE QUITE serious, and all my Mary is evil hopes died a sad death. She DID ACTUALLY jump in front of that shot, Steven takes that absolutely for granted, so our pondering of bullet speeds etc. were all in vain. He’s still surprised some people don’t like Mary, and is rather defensive of her.
Like honestly this stuff from Sue has got me just trembling with rage again, for the first time since S4 ended. Like somehow that ‘of course we’ll be needing two rooms’ comment in ASiP should have keyed the entire bloody audience in to the fact that Sherlock and John are straight as an arrow (someone really should have told Martin and Ben, tbh, ‘cause they were under the impression that they were making the “gayest show on television”–oops), and we are all a bunch of raving, bullying lunatics if we somehow interpreted the piles of not only subtextual, but also blatant, textual queer references in episodes 2 – 9 as meaning that Sherlock and John were queer, and then were upset and proceeded to question the queerbaiting in those episodes, as well as the BBC’s S4 marketing campaign, and demand answers?
Sweet person or not, that’s just a shitty and completely insensitive way of thinking, imo.
John and Sherlock later in the same episode: “are you single? Do you have a boyfriend?” “Girlfriends aren’t my are.”
Should have tried harder if you wanted us to think they were straight.
Honestly, if they didn’t want to make “that show,” totally fine. But when you admit you out queer subtext in the show for funsies don’t insult and shut down your fans for daring to ask about it
The thing that’s upseting me the most is: we’re not the ones bullying someone. DEFINITELY NOT!
Our round table with Sue was like 6 of us, so we really could talk about whatever we wanted. And yes, I went there. I respectfully said “you know that some people are very upset that the series didn’t end …. gayer. With John and Sherlock together.” She replied that she never meant to make that show, they always knew the direction of the show: that the key line is in episode one when Mrs. Hudson asks if they’ll be needing two rooms, they answer that of course they’ll need two rooms (indicating they are straight). They make the show for the world, for the 99.something percent that watch that aren’t even aware of the controversy. If people need to vent and be angry, that’s fine, she’s okay with that, although she doesn’t read it as much as she used to. However, she doesn’t like when people DEMAND answers to questions, which is like bullying.
She was charming and smart, we also talked about being a woman in the industry, how she got her start, just general stuff. She’s extremely likable.
Obv. I shortened the answers just to be concise, but I’ll expand on a few things that people are wondering about:
Skull pic – Mark was absolutely sincere talking about this, and this was a VERY casual fun setting (he’s quite charming and fit irl!). First he explained how the original artist was charging loads of cash to use his print, and they decided enough of that. They had Arwel make a skull, which was a print over a light box (blah blah lil pics of ACD, you’ve heard that before). When shot however, the other lights would hit it – did he say “oddly”? I forget the exact word. It would look too glaring, and like a postage stamp stuck on the wall (pantomimes that). So they changed it. Original question girl follows up “you turned it down?” And Mark replied “no, no, it was done in post” and a comment that “there’s really nothing more to it”
Budget: Mark and Sue both talked about how Sherlock was a huge hit, people think they are rolling in dosh ($) to get them made, but it’s the BBC, and it’s just not that way. Sue made a quip about how she’s the boss, but it’s not all in her hands (paraphrasing there – I have an excellent memory for dialogue, so most of this you can take as quite accurate). Arwen described drawing the “bond lair” – his words- and showing them the pics and then pantomimed jaw dropping astonishment from the team. He followed up with talking about how such a huge set was difficult to bring in on budget. In all the talks of $ there was a slight note of bitterness, or disbelief. SLIGHT note, they are British, but definitely there. I’m very sure they weren’t making it up.
Lights- I was unclear earlier on what Arwel said – he talked at length that there were 3 sets and a location every time they went down the stairs, so you’re literally seeing 2 different ceiling lights because you’re seeing two different sets. I mushed it up with the skull stuff earlier, sorry. He also spoke about how hard they try for continuity, but stuff just gets lost, and “every time you hand an actor a prop, they break it” and followed with a funny anecdote about Eccles and (forget) both IMMEDIATELY broke their first sonic screwdriver.
I’ll have more tonight for you hopefully! Glad I can share stuff with you. Do you wanna see more pics or is that boring?
Why is there a dot? She wrote something, but then changed her answer without noticing that ill-placed dot before the word. Well, it rings true. But I’m used to read between the lines
to find an explanation when it comes to Sherlock. So…
What if .no isn’t just a negative but the Internet country code top-level domain for Norway. As we know, Mary has been to Norway (along with other countries) during her runaway in TST. So there is a connection which provides a reason for moving on.
I tried different domain names to enter the site. However, only the most obvious one works in a quite interesting way. And it’s
sherlock.no (no shit, Sherlock!). But if you try to follow the exact link you’ll be redirected to another domain name which is fantdet.no.
What is “fantdet”? From Norwegian to English “fant det” translates as “found it”. @ContactSH and @contactJHW. WE FOUND IT. It means that we found the accounts on Twitter (the real ones?), therefore
we found out the truth.
Either it looks like Sue admitted the fact and dropped a hint to let us know what we both know, or we’re nutters. Anyway, nothing can stop us from having fun, right? While we can.
1. it could be that you will be redirected if the URL is not assigned to someone but registered in an archive (I don’t have a lot of knowledge on this, but I mean some addresses redirect you to a site that suggest that you buy the domain) and fantdet is the norwegian counterpart to this. But still fucky as hell…
2. that is very clever. Maybe there’s a “the game is” somewhere in the tweets..
great observation!
I just looked at her other replies and she adds the point at the beginning to every other reply
Is she pinpointing??
It just looks like she does it to separate the @ handle from the replies she makes to the person. Non-Sherlock tweets also have it, and sometimes there is a space, before or after the . and sometimes not, but it’s only on reply tweets. @mrsslowly@art-palace@worriesconstantly
Using . After a twitter handle is a common practice to make your response visible on twitter timeline. But he used it after the word not after the @. And that is, frankly, fucky…
But I’m still wondering why redirection works just for sherlock.no while it’s only the “Server not found” error message for every other domain name.
Also, what I think about Sue’s habit of
adding the point at the beginning
in tweets. As @thelostsmiles noted,
there is no need for the period AFTER the handle. If Sue wants everyone to see mentions as common tweets, she does it WRONG. In that case, it gives her perfect
justification to hide anything. Plain sight. Like if you always leave those points in replies, who would ever notice the change? The real purpose? Whatever.
Read the notes on this. Read the denials. Read the continued unshakeable belief that they’re still lying, that a fourth ep is on its way, they need to hold onto the secret just a little bit longer….
Once again. Once AGAIN after a direct, clear, concise answer to their question they insist it’s “fake”, that “there’s something more coming”, that “there’s a LOST SPECIAL” – because they didn’t get what they wanted.
The creators of Sherlock are not doing this to them. They are doing it to themselves.
You were told.
The parallels with the current international political scene are inescapable. Reality has been subsumed into wishful thinking. And truth no longer matters.
@theleftpill Although I share your concern about this, it’s not entirely their fault, or their decision. This is massively the result of the discours the creators have with the fandom, and especially one rule they repeated many times: We lie.
A few days ago I thought back on all the interviews JKR gave, before HP7 was published. And she didn’t need this stupid rule of everything could be a lie. If she didn’t want to answer a question, she just said that it would spoil too much. It’s so easy. Mofftiss chose a different route, that in my opinion wasn’t a very healthy one for the creator/fandom relationship.
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