Could be, could be. I am still in London on holiday, so I didn’t really have time to structure my thoughts yet. Might even need a rewatch for some things…
I can see a Garridebs moment leading into TLD, John now having realised that Sherlock really does love him and now he finally sees that Sherlock is lying to him, now and then (#understatement of the year), so that John now finally bursts, because he’s had enough (Loo even hinted at “someone” having that problem in her panel, and tbh apart from John I can hardly see anyone who is on the verge of breaking, and who has to).
On the other hand, I can also see it the other way round, John first goes through all of these realisations, which leads to a “Sherlock lied to me again, I know he is in danger except he said he’s not, so I’m gonna save him” – boom, Garridebs.
They said there is gonna be the most plot in the last 30min of episode 3. If they pull off the Moriarty-reveal and Garridebs simultaneously, I am gonna cry forever. Happy tears. Because I love pain.
… Considering the “quick man, if you love me” in TLD, Garridebs in episode 3 still makes the most sense tbh.
THIS POST IS FROM LAST YEAR CAN YOU FUCKING BELIEVE THIS
do you ever think about how fucking fake that garridebs scene was. john literally walks in like “oh dang that fresh paint smell” like if i were looking at the camera like i were on the office any harder, i’d be the starring role of seasons 1-9
Alright guys, I asked Mark and Steven about Garridebs!
Mark, very sincerely and personably (make of that what you will), agreed with me about the moment’s emotional importance, and expressed that he had really hoped to include the scene. He said that they (I can’t remember his wording exactly) either tried it or he ran through some possible scenarios and it wouldn’t have fit anywhere (this depends on the different opinions of “was Johnlock intended to be fulfilled or not”). He mentioned the writing phenomenon of “kill your babies” when saying how much he wanted to do the scene. He even called it “throttle the nursery” because it was such a big blow to him.
Steven said that there have been plenty of scenes where Sherlock and John’s care for each other has been shown (his exact emphatic words were “yes yes they would just say wow this is my favorite person!”) and so the Garridebs scene would not be a revelation of that care, as it was in the novels in Victorian times. He said the moment itself is “a retelling of The Red Headed League, but not as good”. I could tell that this is a question he’s been asked before or has thought on a lot, because he delivered the answer very straightforward and with an air of, he’s tired of explaining this and finds it very obvious.
So, interpret all this however you want, I mean shit I still have my strong opinions in this. But I’m just very glad to have been able to ask them both, and in a more private and informal setting, and actually get answers.
the garrideb that shoots john is also named john. i can’t believe the meta reading of the original 3gar is john shoots john. i’m so mad. i didn’t want these.jpg
Even a ‘’nuisance’ threat could be expensive and time consuming. It’s worth keeping all this in mind when we look for answers. Note: THE THREE GARRIDEBS IS STILL UNDER COPYRIGHT.
Throw a plethora of other films/books at the plot and make it all so unrecognisable that it confuses all who watch it. Sum it all up by placing Holmes and Watson right back where they have always been; who you are doesn’t matter. It is what it is, and it’s shit. Sounds like a pissed off statement to me.
John. John Watson. Sherlock Holmes is lost without his blogger. So are we. What’s happening to John? Well, Eurus did tell us, but did we listen?
Three Garridebs. Six Months. Who’s Evans?
The surname Evans is a patronymic surname created from the Welsh personal name Lefan, or Evan, which is a cognate of the personal name John. {x}
John. A dead man walking? When did this supposedly happen?
As I mentioned in a separate post, series 4 consists of events of the past, “5 minutes since Mycroft called” and 10 minutes after Sherlock landed. I may be changing my mind about how close to the present time we got by the end of TFP, but there’s really not much to go on. I think what we saw in series 4 included the missing months between Mary shot Sherlock and Christmas at the Holmes, which all connected back to Moriarty, TRF, and the cause and effect of Redbeard. All of which likely had something to do with Carl Powers,1989, kidnapped siblings (cough Jim and Mary cough), their wicked father, and Hansel and Gretel. Series 4 was not a dream, but we were mostly in Sherlock’s head. As Sherlock sorts through his memory of everything he observed and stored away, pieces from wildly different occurrences were inevitably melted together to represent various aspects of one single story: save John Watson. Not only his life but of his heart and his love – all of which tied to Sherlock’s own.
But how? Well, Sherlock was doing exactly what Sherlock Holmes does best: solve the murder. Let’s take a look at our timeline.
Six months before the tarmac scene. We know Sherlock spent a week in solitary confinement after the Magnussen incident; since his birthday was mentioned in TLD, it was likely Sherlock spent the day on the tarmac saying goodbye to his love and his life – no wonder Sherlock wanted to leave his name with John. Hahaha, but it’s not a girl’s name. FUUUUUUUUUCK. No, there is no baby, but still. Sherlock didn’t know. I don’t think he did. FUCK either way.
Anyway.
Six months – that put us before John and Mary’s wedding according to John’s blog. End of June, beginning of July. When John posted The Bloody Guardsman and The Hollow Client. I’ve covered the parallels between these cases and series 2 in part 1 but didn’t really think much about it in term of John. I rambled on a paragraph or two about The Poison Giant right after TST because of the six pearls and the Thatcher busts and the black pearl of Borgias; the jellyfish in connection to The Adventure of Lion’s Mane and how Mary’s possible posthumous revenge could work – but I didn’t pursue the idea further. However, after reading Doyle’s The Parasite and s4by @may-shepard I realized perhaps we’ve been given clues about what’s been happening to John, alongside Sherlock and Mycroft’s more distant past.
The sign of three referred not only to Mary (666) and Sherlock’s love (3rd death), it applied to John as well – John is the 3rd Bloody Guardsman. The case of The Poison Giant was likely the “planned and rehearsed”. But by whom?
Six pearls; six Thatcher busts. Swandale’s laptop; Ajay’s memory stick. A trap for Sherlock and John; a noose for Sherlock to put his neck into. A pair of jewel thieves; a pair of assassins. That’s… quite a few coincidences, wouldn’t you agree? Sherlock and John were able to escape The Poison Giant—Sherlock’s good with a sword and John had bought a gun—one of the thieves fell off the roof, and the other ended up in prison. In TST, Ajay ended up dead and then… nothing. Was what we saw on screen really what happened?
There are two not-good scenarios running side by side here, both lead to John being, um, undermined: a) delayed action poisoning (how little Carl died); and b) gun shot. I’m uncertain if they are both life-threatening or one is more symbolic of ACD’s The Three Garridebs:
Like is it just me or are the red walls in the Garridebs room strangely reminiscent of the walls in the building where John and Sherlock solved their first case?
@jenna221b did a meta about Eurus’s cell looking like the morgue from TLD, but there is this element as well. The furniture is the same design as from Sherlock’s fight scene with Ajay.
There was foreshadowing about this in TBB.
The same visual memories are being recycled. So far, I’ve written or contributed to six metas on this topic, but it just keeps popping up. This links to a few of them. ( x ) @teaandqueerbaiting@may-shepard
John starts hallucinating after being shot – PART 2.
A sort of extended version of this meta-video. Watch carefully for parallels and metaphors. Remember that since we’re in John’s head, everyone is, at some point or another, John himself –even Sherlock when he’s being hit in the head. In this one I focus on the approximate order of the events taking place in reality as John unconsciously picks up on what’s happening around him, translating it into an hallucination/dream. Also, dreams are emotional, not rational, so don’t try to find a logical explanation for anything in TFP (you won’t be able to). I’m making a separate post on how even (specially I’d say) the seemingly ooc details are perfectly understandable, and believe me, it’s heartbreaking once you see it. Take what John imagines Sherlock saying as a decoder ring for everything: “look how brilliant you are, your mind created the perfect metaphor”. The only way we can understand this episode and its purpose in the show’s narrative is through the metaphors.
Summarized explanation of this video under the cut:
Honestly, I’m blown away. This is a seamless explanation, it’s like we’ve been given the key to unlock the episode in advance. Just like many elements of TAB were predicted, this is how we solve ‘The Final Problem.’ ❤
Brilliant! If we don’t get the fourth episode this is it for me. This is what I’m going to remember as canon.
A rifle hanging on the wall AND fresh paint, which is commented on specifically but never explained? It’s getting hard not to believe something’s up with that…
If the Garridebs moment wasn’t happening, it shouldn’t be hanging there?
IS THIS CHEKHOV’S GARRIDEBS, I AM LIVING
Not just there … also on the S4 DVD cover picture (as I added to the other post about Chekhov).
Are there more rifles in S4?
Though let’s point out their not the same guns. Did the AGRA team use this rifle?
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