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Hey, Salt Crew!

If you had to choose a single moment from Sherlock s4 that was the most cringe/eyeroll/lol/enraging, which one would it be and why?  Ready, go.  Let the saltiness begin!

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Wow. I feel like I need to put some thought into this. I’m also going to have to delve into the Mind Palace to remember anything about S4. I’ll get back to ya!

This one’s easy for me.  The morgue scene, specifically John’s assault of Sherlock, for a number of reasons.  Foremost, because it was deeply, deeply disturbing and brutal.  And because it was over-the-top–there was no need to extend the beating for so long (I mean, we got it, right?).  And because it was out of character–I have never seen any other version or incarnation of Sherlock Holmes stories in which Watson not only gets that angry, but physically beats Sherlock.  Not supposed to happen.  That’s not the story ACD was telling. Another reason that scene tops my cringe-worthy list is because John shows no remorse, and never apologizes.  That little blip of a scene with Lestrade doesn’t cover it–he just admits he hit him.  Does the scene mean John was arrested?  Given an ASBO?  We don’t really know, do we?  At any rate, if they’re going to show us John brutalizing Sherlock, we need a scene to balance that, but we don’t get it.  The hug?–  Like throwing a teaspoon of water on a forest fire.

On a micro level it was the focus on Mary. I hate everything about it. Her character went from interesting and evil to boring and derivative. Also, where do I send my resignation from the Dead Mary DVD of the Month Club?

On a macro level, it’s the way the entire series had the feel of being thrown together at the last minute. I was put in mind of a couple of frat boys who had all semester to write a paper and waited until the night before to put fingers to keyboard and hoped that their “charm” and “talent” would carry through and their professor wouldn’t notice it was crap.

It was a failure at multiple levels. From makeup to sets to cameras being on screen and actors looking into the camera. To the insulting writing and plot holes large enough to drive a lorry through.

And I have to comment on the lack of any check and balance on Moftiss. There is clearly no one who can tell them when their writing sucks before it airs. There are certainly plenty of us willing to tell them after. But it’s important to have someone in your life who can tell you when you’ve gotten too big for your britches, as we say in the south. They clearly don’t have that, at least not anyone they will listen to.

I could go on about Sister Shutter Island but I’m going to spare you. @lediona25 Thank you for this opportunity. It was cathartic.

@lawyermargo This is one of those questions where all you can think is “WHERE DO I START???!!!”

For now, I’ll go with Mary jumping in front of the bullet.

For a moment that doesn’t even seem to be important enough to put in the show–WHY DOES NO ONE GIVE A SHIT OR FIGURE OUT WHO CREATED AND SENT THE “MISS ME?” VIDEO THAT GOT SHERLOCK CALLED BACK?”

Can I just give a bulleted list?

+ Sherlock and Mary joke about how useless John is in front of him in TST

+ doggo is cute, but adds nothing and means nothing in story

+ Who wears a car seat as a costume and then dies in a fiery crash  I mean what are the odds????

+ Mary jumps in front of bullet to die & John a trained army doctor does nothing to save her and instead just moooos. Like WOT???

+ Who are these people who are suddenly raising Rosie? If we never see Rosie on screen, why does she exist in the narrative exactly?

+ Who is sending all these post-humous DVDs from Mary? Who even uses DVDs anymore???

+ Every time GHOST Mary speaks, I want to stick a fork in my ear, I mean WHAT whaat???

+ The whole plot of TLD is Sherlock fucks himself up so John will notice him? REALLY? SO much clever, so very brilllianT, soo Sherlock Holmes worthy

+ John beats Sherlock half to death because you know  …  besties, bros, two of them against the world, together they’re the last resort for the scared and needy and misfits and  … reasons

+ Memory drug … Faith . . not Faith … John shot in the face but not . .

+ I’VE WAITED FIVE DAMN YEARS TO MEET HARRY WATSON BUT NOOOooo WE NEED TO SEE SHERLOCK’S SUDDEN SISTER instead

+ If you want to escape an explosion on an upper floor just jump STRAIGHT thru a solid wood window and BOOP you’re fine. You will land on a fishing boat in the fog apparently

+ Soooo Sherlock had a childhood friend who ate out of dog bowl and would lick Sherlock’s face in greeting???

+ They shot TFP in cardboard box painted red

+ The Three Garridebs – a beloved moment in ACD canon is now a cheap crappy joke  just like the whole of Sherlock and John’s slowburn romance is now a cheap gay joke – yay, LOL, so funny

+ I am so sad John had to leave his feet in that well … Ol’ John Stumpy Watson

+ The rug in 221b, a chair and the cow horns survive an explosion that destroyed the flat – special exceptions bomb

+ Rosie who didn’t exist now exists again, and Mary who shouldn’t exist  is now the narrator for the entire show  … and my whole head just hurts

I’m co-signing all the Salty Lists here, and adding my disgust at the blatant queerbaiting in the marketing of S4 by BBC and the contemptible statements by Mofftiss immediately pre-and-post-S4: “Sherlock is not a love story and never will be”; Gatiss disavowing his famous “desperately unspoken” quote about TPLOSH.